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pan8
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Ok libs here ya go. Please give the board your take on the BOs increase of troop strength in Afghanistan. The BO has the ability to bring home the troops that were stationed in Iraqi but he has chosen to augment the combat element in Afghanistan. Wonder why?
Not sure of the numbers that make up the cadre remaining in Iraqi but they are there none the less and not coming home. More change we can believe in? 
Please advise - - - -
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Sat Jul 04, 2009 9:36 am |
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mutt of flint
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| except it was bush and cheney who signed in the troop withdrawal in iraq. now hush. afghanistan has been an ignored problem. the country that harbored the people who ACTUALLY attacked us has gone back to being controlled by one of the conspirating organizations. you tend to miss some pretty big facts here considering iraq was the first war in america's history that was started unprovoked and without an attack and afghanistan wasn't. for people who .. about security, you seem to have no idea where the enemy actually is. |
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Sat Jul 04, 2009 1:08 pm |
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pan8
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mutt of flint schreef:
except it was bush and cheney who signed in the troop withdrawal in iraq. now hush. afghanistan has been an ignored problem. the country that harbored the people who ACTUALLY attacked us has gone back to being controlled by one of the conspirating organizations. you tend to miss some pretty big facts here considering iraq was the first war in america's history that was started unprovoked and without an attack and afghanistan wasn't. for people who .. about security, you seem to have no idea where the enemy actually is.
The enemy is us. We are defeating ourselves through all of this political bickering.
Reading you post I assume you then aprove of the build up of combat infantry, armor and artillery in Afghanistan? Glad we can agree on something.
Now getting back to my question, when is your president going to bring the cadres out of Iraqi or is this just another case of OhNoBama being in over his head and flapping his gums without any prior knowledge. Well he was a community organizer. Sure that qualifies him to be president.
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Sat Jul 04, 2009 1:26 pm |
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mutt of flint
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I'm going to disregard the rove tactic your using, bringing up his job expierience. the thing is, iraq wasn't a threat to us until we became a threat to them. sadaam, believe it or not, knew what he was doing. he was controling the conflict between the shiites and sunni's through a tactic you rep's know pretty well: fear. why do you think as soon as they were "liberated" they broke out into civil war about the sects of religion? iraq will consider us no longer a threat leaving under obama, whether it was his proposal or not, because the world views us as a different country under him. we aren't, but they don't have to know that. we're just not being lead by a bully anymore. the iraqis will not follow us back here. quote me on that.
now pakistan and afghanistan? vulgar language worrying about iran and north korea. they won't/can't do anything. if there are country's we should be fearful of, it is those 2. |
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Sat Jul 04, 2009 1:40 pm |
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| talk about a sheep!!! turn OFF THE RADIO PAN!!! |
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Sat Jul 04, 2009 1:55 pm |
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pan8
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mutt of flint schreef:
I'm going to disregard the rove tactic your using, bringing up his job expierience. the thing is, iraq wasn't a threat to us until we became a threat to them.
now pakistan and afghanistan? vulgar language worrying about iran and north korea. they won't/can't do anything. if there are country's we should be fearful of, it is those 2.
Strange that you would say Iraq wasn't a threat to us, slick willie stated they were. Wonder why during the campaigns the BO stated he would bomb Pakistan? The problem is not the Pakis but the nukes they have. If the rag heads get their hands on the nukes you can pretty much bet India will bomb the Pakis.
The BO has no job experience other than on the job training and so far he is receiving a failing grade. The falling poll numbers prove that.
You feel that Korea and Iran are not a threat to us? Son, you are more naive than I thought.
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Sun Jul 05, 2009 9:22 am |
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twotap
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| How about Bagains avatar? thats what a Krispey Kreme withdrawl looks like. Just tell your kids to say NO. |
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Sun Jul 05, 2009 9:35 am |
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"ragheads"...........brilliant.
whine....whine....whine.........  |
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Sun Jul 05, 2009 11:20 am |
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twotap
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| I like it. of course its not as popular a label as the libs favorite "REDNECKS" but its catching on. |
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Sun Jul 05, 2009 3:04 pm |
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First of all, calling the President of the United States "the BO" is incredibly disrespectful. I'm so tired of watching cons who complained about how libs didn't respect George W. Bush turn around and do the same thing to President Obama. If you complained about that, you shouldn't be doing this. So unless you called the former President "Shrub," I expect to see some changes here.
As to your point, this IS change. We are no longer fighting a war about oil, we're actually going after terrorists - and in a very different way. Our soldiers are going in with orders to protect civilians and support the locals. Maybe you missed this story: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090622/ap_on_re_as/as_afghanistan
Republicans criticized him during the campaign for talking about troop withdrawals. Now that he's not immediately bringing thousands of troops home, you want to point to him and say, "Oh look! He's not all about change!". When this administration is absolutely about change.
I believe most libs understand what's going on here. The President is not at the tiller of a sailboat, he can't just turn things around the way he wants them by executive order.
Well, he could, but it didn't work all that well for his predecessor - so at least give him credit for learning from history. |
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Mon Jul 06, 2009 11:14 am |
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pan8
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I respect the office of the President of the United States, I do not respect the BO!! Don't like it? Tough shit. 
He is unqualified and in over his head, even his side kick Joe has stated this week as much when referring to the economy.
Sure we are seeing change, straight outa socialism 101. Iraqi was about oil? Give me you proof - - - your U.N. had 14 resolutions but no balls to back their resolutions up, only 43 had the balls and back bone.
The real change will start in 2010 and then again in 2012.
Enjoy it while ya gotta it lib!!
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Mon Jul 06, 2009 1:06 pm |
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mutt of flint
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quote:
twotap schreef:
I like it. of course its not as popular a label as the libs favorite "REDNECKS" but its catching on.
yet your proving libs right by using that incredibly racist term. |
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Mon Jul 06, 2009 3:11 pm |
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twotap
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| Lets see Rednecks, White trash, Trailer Trash, Hillbillys, just 4 off the top of my head that are not only OK to use by Lib standards but entirely acceptable by most of their colleagues in the lib media. Isnt it amazing that a descriptive term is only bad or racist when some whiny lib finds it not to his liking. |
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Mon Jul 06, 2009 3:21 pm |
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mutt of flint
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quote:
pan8 schreef:
quote:
mutt of flint schreef:
I'm going to disregard the rove tactic your using, bringing up his job expierience. the thing is, iraq wasn't a threat to us until we became a threat to them.
now pakistan and afghanistan? vulgar language worrying about iran and north korea. they won't/can't do anything. if there are country's we should be fearful of, it is those 2.
Strange that you would say Iraq wasn't a threat to us, slick willie stated they were. Wonder why during the campaigns the BO stated he would bomb Pakistan? The problem is not the Pakis but the nukes they have. If the rag heads get their hands on the nukes you can pretty much bet India will bomb the Pakis.
The BO has no job experience other than on the job training and so far he is receiving a failing grade. The falling poll numbers prove that.
You feel that Korea and Iran are not a threat to us? Son, you are more naive than I thought.
Pan8
he may have thought that, but knew he didn't have enough proof to go over there and thats besides that fact that he probably knew what would happen if we unwarrantedly attacked iraq for means other than "we find them threatening."
the falling poll numbers are nothing right now. people are too impatient to even give his programs a chance to work. that and every single thing he does gets scrutinized under a microscope of hatred. you know, I get told by a few conserves every now and then that the boom created during the clinton years were because of moves reagen did. so pretty much, it took a little over 20 years to kick in? and then the recession is because of clinton 5 years later, now the depression, 8 years after clinton "began" the recession, is caused by obama being in power for 6 months. if you can explain that math to me in a way that actually uses facts to back it up, I'll award you.
korea and irans power is created by fear. neither one can attack anybody without getting destroyed by the world, so what jung il and ahmadinejad do is push around a country that has been proven to bully, in order to get us to attack. we're the bear and they keep poking. problem is, if we attack north korea first we'll piss off china, who pretty much owns our country and could pretty well march in and just tell us to get out. if we attack iran first, we have yet another battle cry to allow sympathizers to join on against us. ultimately, they want us to throw our weight around, but we must keep in mind that we're featherweights when pitted up against the rest of the world. that is why I don't fear those 2. the iran principal works with pakistan too, but we can only be backed up by russia there and theres not much confidence in our trust of them. you can call me naive, but who's looking at the big picture & whos only being the bear slowly getting pissed off at a little kid poking him with hunters surrounding him? |
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Mon Jul 06, 2009 3:27 pm |
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the falling poll numbers are nothing right now
Ill bet they are to Barack since lib Democrats live by poll numbers. |
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