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Thu Jun 12, 2008 12:04 am |
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Adam Ford schreef:
I support free trade but am opposed to NAFTA GAFTA WTO United Nations etc because they usurp U.S. sovereignty.
Once again. You can't have it both ways. Free trade is all about the meaninglessness of nations (and their people) and the superiority of markets (customers) – whose interests are rarely served by cheap junk, expensive junk, and always shrinking wages.
As long as there is a profit-motive in health care, none of the regulations you allude to (but fail to identify (probably because suggesting further deregulation of, say, The Food & Drug Administration would be considered downright psychotic)) mean a damn thing to 50 million of your neighbors, all one stray sneeze away from the poorhouse and the grave. Is this the new compassionate conservatism? Is this what Jeebus would do? When are the 'good people' gonna start acting like it? |
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Thu Jun 12, 2008 8:52 am |
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Adam Ford
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Public D schreef:
Once again. You can't have it both ways. Free trade is all about the meaninglessness of nations (and their people) and the superiority of markets (customers) – whose interests are rarely served by cheap junk, expensive junk, and always shrinking wages.
As long as there is a profit-motive in health care, none of the regulations you allude to (but fail to identify (probably because suggesting further deregulation of, say, The Food & Drug Administration would be considered downright psychotic)) mean a damn thing to 50 million of your neighbors, all one stray sneeze away from the poorhouse and the grave. Is this the new compassionate conservatism? Is this what Jeebus would do? When are the 'good people' gonna start acting like it?
We used to have it both ways. You leave out things like oil which we use to produce things like food and drive ourselves to work.
There are cancer patients who go to Mexico for a reason. I am a supporter of alternative medicine. I think laetrile and marijuana should definately be legal. Many cancer patients claim marijuana is better than the expensive and highly toxic and potentially fatal cancer drugs but it is banned by the federal government. I support the AMA's right to unionize but I don't think "psychotic" consumers who want freedom of choice should be allowed to make their own decisions and not have to go down to Mexico for alternative cancer treatments like laetrile.
How many natural non toxic treatments have the FDA approved verses toxic/potentially lethal ones? You don't think the drug industry has strong sway over the FDA? How many known carcinogens has the FDA approved to kill Americans? I don't have a problem with tobacco but I think the FDA needs to take a second look at the known carcinogens it has approved to be added to tobacco. In addition the FDA has approved known cancer causing carcinogens to be added to processed meats with no warning labels. I am also not in support of sodium fluoride which is highly toxic and even more toxic than lead in acute doses. It may be safe at one part per million but at 1 part per 100,000 is no longer safe for human consumption.
In addition you fail to mention the well-intentioned liberal farm bill which helps keep millions of Americans from "starving" but helps kill 1,000s if not millions of Americans and contributes to our health care crisis.
You might think people like me and Kevin Trudeau are quacks but you should talk to Dr Bruce (not a medical doctor) who survived stage 4 renal carcinoma while refusing any conventional medical treatments wth merely strong dietary changes. http://www.survivecancerfoundation.org/story/cancer/
The medical court system is one of the worst judicial systems around with the FDA pretty much playing judge jury and executioner.
I have done a lot of cancer research http://health.mysearchisover.com/cancer.html but it is better for me to let cancer patients die than to help them and risk an armed raid by the FDA.
Maybe you think people like me Dr. Burce and Kevin Trudeau are psuchotic quacks but I bet we get sick much less than you do.
To claim Americans have freedom of choice is insanity otherwise they would not be going to Mexico to excercise their choice. The medial industry is highly regulated by the FDA. It is illegal to cure patients with alternative treatments that are not approved by the FDA even if they are used with success in other countries.
I have looked at laetrile which was used in America but is now banned and it does seem like a worthwhile treatment. If I did have cancer I would actually consider going to Mexico like many other cancer patients to excercise a freedom of choice which is not allowed in America.
I'd recommend you consider reading some of Kevin Trudeau's book so you can understand the power the drug industry has over the FDA which you so admire. FDA regulators are almost always former drug industry insiders. If not there is often a lucrative position waiting for FDA regulators who are "freindly" towards the drug industry. |
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Thu Jun 12, 2008 1:03 pm |
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Thu Jun 12, 2008 1:21 pm |
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Demeralda
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Don't apologize to me. You're always welcome in my thread.
I'm done with Adam. |
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Thu Jun 12, 2008 1:31 pm |
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Adam Ford
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Thu Jun 12, 2008 2:01 pm |
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Adam Ford
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Demeralda schreef:
Don't apologize to me. You're always welcome in my thread.
I'm done with Adam.
I'm still waiting for the supporting evidence for some of your statements.  |
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Thu Jun 12, 2008 2:03 pm |
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Demeralda
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Unlike you, I don't need 6 year old articles to "support" my ideas.
When I cite a fact, I give the source.
But why bother? You either don't read it, or don't understand it. |
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Thu Jun 12, 2008 2:13 pm |
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Adam Ford
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I was talking more about pics and not articles.
You have not backed up your Pamela Anderson statements with any supporting documentation.
The U.S. Constitution is old. The concept of freedom are old. The bible is also old. To say something is invalid because of it's age is a fallacy.
Although you may be impressed by my wit there are writers who have more time than me to do a full analysis and write an article. As an old school conservative some of the supporting documentation for some of my beliefs are as old as our first Republican President Lincoln. Whether its an article or my own statements facts are facts regardless of who is writing them or whether they are original or not.
To argue in support of conservativism in this nation often requires looking way back which means some of the articles and supporting documentation may be "old". |
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Thu Jun 12, 2008 2:32 pm |
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Demeralda
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| What Pamela Anderson statement? LOL |
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Thu Jun 12, 2008 3:49 pm |
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Adam Ford
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Thu Jun 12, 2008 8:30 pm |
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