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Paddle faster, I hear banjos.
Thu Jun 26, 2008 9:27 am
Dave Starr F L I N T O I D
ADD - The ruling is a 157 page PDF file. A quick scanning finds the majority agreeing that: a. "The right of the people", and b. "to keep and bear arms", are the operative phrases of the amendment.
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Pushing buttons sure can be fun.
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WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court says Americans have a right to own guns for self-defense and hunting, the justices' first definitive pronouncement on gun rights in American history.
The court's 5-4 ruling strikes down the District of Columbia's 32-year-old ban on handguns as incompatible with gun rights under the Second Amendment. The decision goes further than even the Bush administration wanted, but probably leaves most firearms laws intact.
The court had not conclusively interpreted the Second Amendment since its ratification in 1791. The amendment reads: "A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."
The basic issue for the justices was whether the amendment protects an individual's right to own guns no matter what, or whether that right is somehow tied to service in a state militia.
Justice Scalia, writing for four colleagues, said the Constitution does not permit "the absolute prohibition of handguns held and used for self-defense in the home."
In dissent, Justice Stevens wrote that the majority "would have us believe that over 200 years ago, the Framers made a choice to limit the tools available to elected officials wishing to regulate civilian uses of weapons."
He said such evidence "is nowhere to be found."
Joining Justice Scalia were Chief Justice Roberts and Justices Alito, Kennedy, and Thomas. The other dissenters were Justices Breyer, Ginsburg, and Souter.
The capital's gun law was among the nation's strictest.
Dick Anthony Heller, 66, an armed security guard, sued the District after it rejected his application to keep a handgun at his home for protection in the same Capitol Hill neighborhood as the court.
The U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia ruled in Mr. Heller's favor and struck down Washington's handgun ban, saying the Constitution guarantees Americans the right to own guns and that a total prohibition on handguns is not compatible with that right.
The issue caused a split within the Bush administration. Vice President Cheney supported the appeals court ruling, but others in the administration feared it could lead to the undoing of other gun regulations, including a federal law restricting sales of machine guns. Other laws keep felons from buying guns and provide for an instant background check.
Justice Scalia said nothing in today's ruling should "cast doubt on long-standing prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons or the mentally ill, or laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings."
The law adopted by Washington's city council in 1976 bars residents from owning handguns unless they had one before the law took effect. Shotguns and rifles may be kept in homes, if they are registered, kept unloaded and either disassembled or equipped with trigger locks.
Opponents of the law have said it prevents residents from defending themselves. The Washington government says no one would be prosecuted for a gun law violation in cases of self-defense.
Thu Jun 26, 2008 9:38 am
twotap F L I N T O I D
Just another reason why we were fortunate to never have a Gore or Kerry nominate a Supreme court justice.
_________________ "If you like your current healthcare you can keep it, Period"!!
Barack Hussein Obama--- multiple times.
Thu Jun 26, 2008 11:03 am
Ponycar F L I N T O I D
Outstanding !!!!!
The banning of guns only assures criminals that their prey is unarmed.
_________________ A government big enough to give you everything is also powerful enough to take it all away.
Thu Jun 26, 2008 11:40 am
Dave Starr F L I N T O I D
I'm going to look into open carry - it's a lot more comfortable than concealed.
_________________ I used to care, but I take a pill for that now.
Pushing buttons sure can be fun.
When a lion wants to go somewhere, he doesn’t worry about how many hyenas are in the way.
Paddle faster, I hear banjos.
Thu Jun 26, 2008 11:54 am
Demeralda F L I N T O I D
Good, now you can stop fearing Obama
_________________ I'm no model lady. A model's just an imitation of the real thing. - Mae West
Thu Jun 26, 2008 12:21 pm
twotap F L I N T O I D
That aint likely to happen since I am sure he may get to appoint one or two aging hippies to the court if he does actually become prez.
_________________ "If you like your current healthcare you can keep it, Period"!!
Barack Hussein Obama--- multiple times.
Thu Jun 26, 2008 12:26 pm
Adam Ford F L I N T O I D
quote:Demeralda schreef:
Good, now you can stop fearing Obama
"Ok for states & cities to determine local gun laws"
"FactCheck: Yes, Obama endorsed Illinois handgun ban"
"Respect 2nd Amendment, but local gun bans ok "
"2000: cosponsored bill to limit purchases to 1 gun per month"
"Obama voted for a bill in the Illinois senate that allowed retired law enforcement officers to carry concealed weapons. If there was any issue on which Obama rarely deviated, it was gun control. He was the most strident candidate when it came to enforcing and expanding gun control laws. So this vote jumped out as inconsistent."
"Bush erred in failing to renew assault weapons ban"
Thu Jun 26, 2008 12:36 pm
twotap F L I N T O I D
Baracko is also on record as opposing concealed carry laws claiming they lead to more violence, of course he has no way to back up his claim. Hes the most antigun idiot running for prez in the history of the US period.
_________________ "If you like your current healthcare you can keep it, Period"!!
Barack Hussein Obama--- multiple times.
Thu Jun 26, 2008 1:41 pm
Dave Starr F L I N T O I D
Nice coincidence - on the day of the Supreme Court 2nd amendment ruling, mu CPL comes.
_________________ I used to care, but I take a pill for that now.
Pushing buttons sure can be fun.
When a lion wants to go somewhere, he doesn’t worry about how many hyenas are in the way.
Paddle faster, I hear banjos.
Thu Jun 26, 2008 2:42 pm
twotap F L I N T O I D
The NRA will file lawsuits in San Francisco, Chicago and several of its suburbs challenging handgun restrictions there based on Thursday's outcome.
Well, Chicago Obamas home turf lets see what that staunch supporter of the 2nd ammendment has to say about this.
_________________ "If you like your current healthcare you can keep it, Period"!!
Barack Hussein Obama--- multiple times.
Thu Jun 26, 2008 4:22 pm
Tegan F L I N T O I D
hooray!
Fri Jun 27, 2008 5:41 am
twotap F L I N T O I D
Damn right horray did you happen to see Diane feinstein and Chicagos mayor Daly making once again total asses of themselves regarding the ruling.
quote:
Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., a leading gun control advocate in Congress, criticized the ruling. "I believe the people of this great country will be less safe because of it," she said.
quote:
Mayor Daley, a proponent of strict gun control laws, wasn't happy about the Supreme Court ruling, calling it "a very frightening decision."
"If they think that's the answer ... they're greatly mistaken. Then why don't we do away with the court system and go back to the Old West, you have a gun and I have a gun, and we'll settle it in the streets if that's they're thinking."
Well lets see Feinstein just happens to carry a handgun herself and Daley presides over one of the most crime ridden sections of America but claims his no honest citizens allowed handguns program is a winner. And of course Barack Obama is in complete agreement with Daley on the subject.
And we cant forget this idiot.
quote:
District of Columbia Mayor Adrian Fenty responded with a plan to require residents of the nation's capital to register their handguns. "More handguns in the District of Columbia will only lead to more handgun violence," Fenty said.
_________________ "If you like your current healthcare you can keep it, Period"!!
Barack Hussein Obama--- multiple times.
Fri Jun 27, 2008 7:37 am
Adam Ford F L I N T O I D
quote:twotap schreef:
Damn right horray did you happen to see Diane feinstein and Chicagos mayor Daly making once again total asses of themselves regarding the ruling.
How terrible that law abiding citizens should have guns in their homes. How will the criminals be able to terrorize them?
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