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Fri Jul 11, 2008 2:46 pm
Adam Ford F L I N T O I D
Did you read the article? "you wouldn't know it if you watched any of the mainstream media outlets or followed political reporting in the major newspapers."
I doubt any of this stuff will be reporting on the "mainstream" neocon Fox news.
Fri Jul 11, 2008 3:00 pm
Dave Starr F L I N T O I D
The Huffington Post is "mainstream media"?
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Fri Jul 11, 2008 3:12 pm
Flinn's Journal F L I N T O I D
That's the point. The Huffington Post is not mainstream. Thanks to blogs, YouTube and other media which report what the mainstream media does not report, those who want to follow news stories which are not being reported are able to find them, including video. But watch out for doctored stories such as the extra missile which Iran inserted with PhotoShop or similar photo editing software.
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Fri Jul 11, 2008 4:30 pm
Dave Starr F L I N T O I D
Do you consider the Huffington Post to be a reliable source? How about the Daily Kos, Moveon.org and mediamatters, among others?
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Sat Jul 12, 2008 6:55 am
Adam Ford F L I N T O I D
They're probably just as good as the information coming from the White House. What I would like to know is actually how much money and training the United States gave to Osama bin Ladin and his friends. I assume Osama passed his CIA training onto his minions so they could use it against us.
The New York Times seems to me to be the most biased. I have a tendency to trust independent news oultlets over the main stream.
I haven't heard any mainstream reports about how horrible the Iraqi government we installed is.
Sat Jul 12, 2008 7:53 am
Adam Ford F L I N T O I D
This won't get covered. (McCain doesn't want to repeal Roe v Wade tomorrow and isn;t concerned about appointing pro-life judges.
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Mon Jul 21, 2008 11:19 am
Demeralda F L I N T O I D
Not to mention the SOVEREIGN nation of Iraq wants Obama's timetable, not McCain's permanent occupation.
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Mon Jul 21, 2008 1:03 pm
strattonsigns F L I N T O I D
Do you REALLY think McCain wants an open ended committment in Iraq?
Really?
At least he didn't flat out frikkin LIE and tell people last year that he would IMMEDIATELY pull all the troops out of IRAQ and then backpeddle his ass off once he was assured of getting the nomination.
NO ONE CAN REMOVE THE TROOPS FROM IRAQ UNTIL THE NATION IS SECURE!!!!!!! THAT'S THE FACTS!!!!!!!!
Mon Jul 21, 2008 2:16 pm
Demeralda F L I N T O I D
And when will it be secure?
Are you saying the Iraqis can't decide that for themselves? Funny, I thought the bit was "we'll stand down when they stand up." Well, they're asking to stand up, and we're telling them no, they can't? So much for the will of the Iraqi people. I love how the rationale keeps changing.
I thought the surge was working. I thought violence was at an all time low. So when, exactly, is the right time to go? Should we wait 5 or 10 years to see if we can get it to go back up?
You have a circular argument on your hands. You say it's better and more secure because of the surge, and we have to stay to keep it that way. On the other hand, when it was the most violent, you say we can't leave until it's secure. Catch-22, anyone?
I think Obama's commitment to leaving Iraq has essentially remained unchanged; just the attempts to color his remarks have. He's changed on many things, but this isn't one of them. Refinement is not the same as reversal.
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Mon Jul 21, 2008 2:44 pm
Dave Starr F L I N T O I D
If Obama was president on Dec. 7, 1941 he would have surrendered immediately because all those casualties "just aren't worth it".
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Mon Jul 21, 2008 2:57 pm
Demeralda F L I N T O I D
And he might have been right. If we can remove the patriotic blinders for a moment (because we just LOVE being saviors of the world), it could be that WWII could have been avoided.
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Mon Jul 21, 2008 3:19 pm
Dave Starr F L I N T O I D
So, Neville Chamberlain had the right idea?
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