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twotap F L I N T O I D
Ill Start.
During his recent speech in Berlin, Barack Obama tried to ingratiate himself to
the foreign crowd by claiming loudly that he was “a citizen of the world.”
The problem is Obama’s self-proclaimed global “citizenship” appears to go well
beyond just a rhetorical device to gain favor with a European throng full of
pie-in-the-sky utopians.
It seems the Democrats’ would-be president of the United States of America
really believes that the rest of the world’s problems, and approval, trump the
interests of Americans when it comes to how we live our lives and where our
money is spent.
While stumping for the support of his party’s leftist base, Obama proclaimed,
"we can't drive our SUVs and eat as much as we want and keep our homes on 72
degrees at all times . . . and then just expect that other countries are going
to say OK."
And now he’s putting your money where his mouth is.
A bill he has sponsored in the U.S. Senate, the so-called Global Poverty Act
(S. 2433), would raise the amount of American tax dollars allocated to United
Nations’ redistribution efforts to $845 billion.
That’s $2,500 from every American taxpayer, when many in our country already are
struggling to make ends meet.
And if you think taxes and energy costs are high now, wait until Obama’s global
energy and production taxes are made law by the Nancy Pelosi/Harry Reid-run
Democrat Congress.
Is this what Pelosi meant when she said, “I’m trying to save the planet! I’m
trying to save the planet!”?
Senator Obama and the Democrats don’t seem to understand that American
prosperity is a result of the hard work of American citizens in a free market
economy. And that the American people already are the most generous in the
world when it comes to global aid.
Help us show Barack Obama that Americans don’t need foreign approval to lead
their lives as they see fit, and that he ought to remember that he is running
for president of the United States, not the United Nations
_________________ "If you like your current healthcare you can keep it, Period"!!
Barack Hussein Obama--- multiple times.
Wed Aug 13, 2008 8:34 am
Dave Starr F L I N T O I D
I've read in various places online that the "free" tickets to his big stadium event at the convention aren't so free after all. Anyone wanting a "free" ticket is expected to "volunteer" 6 hours of their time campaigning for Obama. No "volunteer", no "free" ticket.
Also read that his foreign policy adviser said that what's needed to defuse the situation in Georgia is calm diplomacy. That worked well for Neville Chamberlain, too.
_________________ I used to care, but I take a pill for that now.
Pushing buttons sure can be fun.
When a lion wants to go somewhere, he doesn’t worry about how many hyenas are in the way.
Paddle faster, I hear banjos.
Wed Aug 13, 2008 9:43 am
Public D F L I N T O I D
Given the recent events in Georgia and the rhetoric surrounding it, I found this column pretty enlightening:
Straw-Man Diplomacy
Thursday, May. 22, 2008
By JOE KLEIN
On the Friday before the 2004 presidential election, Osama bin Laden released a videotape slamming George W. Bush, which more than a few people took as a tacit endorsement of John Kerry. The CIA saw it differently, though. According to Ron Suskind's fine book, The One Percent Doctrine, Deputy Director John McLaughlin said, "Bin Laden certainly did a nice favor today for the President." It seemed obvious to the top CIA analysts that bin Laden wanted to keep Bush — who had let the terrorists off the hook in Afghanistan and launched the war in Iraq, a great recruiting tool for al-Qaeda — in power.
Which raises the question: Who are the bad guys rooting for in 2008? John McCain would have you believe the answer is clear. Barack Obama wants to meet with the leaders of enemy states, especially Iran, "which would increase their prestige," McCain says, and convey the impression of American weakness. To punctuate the point, McCain persistently barks that Obama wants to meet with the Iranian President, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, a flagrant anti-Semite but a relatively powerless figurehead. Obama did say during a debate last summer that he would meet with foreign leaders without preconditions. "He shorthanded the answer," Senator Joe Biden recently said. Ever since, Obama has been creatively fuzzy when asked directly if he would meet with Ahmadinejad — and he has begun to point out that the real leaders of Iran are the clerics led by the Supreme Leader Ayatullah Ali Khamenei, who controls Iran's foreign policy and its nuclear program. Obama has also been explicit about the need to start with lower-level talks, a presidential summit coming only if there were progress in those negotiations. In his previous, straight-talking incarnation, McCain would have allowed Obama the modifications to his shorthand answer and debated the issue on the merits. Not this year.
When I asked McCain on May 19 why he kept linking Obama to Ahmadinejad, he said that Ahmadinejad represents Iran at the U.N., which is a fair point, and that the "average American" thinks he's the leader of Iran, which he isn't. Indeed, it could be argued that McCain's Ahmadinejad obsession "increases the prestige" of a relatively powerless loudmouth for domestic political gain. Linking Obama to the world's most famous anti-Semite certainly doesn't hurt McCain among Jewish retirees in Florida, a swing state. In any case, don't be surprised if Ahmadinejad pulls a bin Laden and "denounces" McCain just before the election this year.
Why? Because the last thing Iran's leaders want is an American President who doesn't play the role of the Great Satan. They need the mirage of an implacable, saber-rattling foe to distract their population from the utter incompetence of their government. An American President who said, "Let's talk," would lead an awful lot of Iranians to ask their leaders, "Why aren't you talking?" That was certainly the case after the reformer Mohammed Khatami won a surprise landslide election to become the Iranian President in 1997. The Clinton Administration began making quiet diplomatic overtures toward Khatami, and a handshake between Clinton and him was choreographed for the 2000 U.N. General Assembly meeting — but Khatami backed out at the last minute, under pressure from his clerical superiors. In recent Iranian elections, the mullahs have made sure that reformers like Khatami were ineligible to run for the presidency and the Iranian parliament — although there are indications that Khamenei considers Ahmadinejad to be an unnecessarily bellicose embarrassment as well.
This recent history provides sobering lessons for both Obama and McCain. For Obama, it demonstrates just how difficult any attempt to engage Iran's leaders will be. A more prudent course would probably be to ignore Iran at first and try to engage Syria, which has been dropping all sorts of hints that it is ready to talk to both the U.S. and Israel. For McCain, the lesson is the opposite: Why on earth does he want to keep making the same mistake Bush did and play the caricature Great Satan? A more prudent course would be to stow the tough-guy rhetoric, appear more reasonable, while aggressively — militarily — going after the violent jihadis in Afghanistan, Pakistan and elsewhere.
That doesn't seem to be McCain's way, however. He is all bluster and impatience. If nothing else, his assault on Obama has renewed questions about whether McCain has the temperament to be President. A few years ago, in friendlier times, the Senator and I talked about the Cuban missile crisis. At a crucial moment, John F. Kennedy received two messages from the Soviets — one bellicose, one accommodating. He chose to ignore the bellicose message and very likely saved the world. "You probably would've chosen the wrong message," I teased McCain. "I probably would have," he laughed. He was joking, but given his behavior of late, you've got to wonder.
Lets see, title of thread "expose Obama" didnt see Mcains name mentioned. Guess their is no defending the chosen one without introducing his rival. Pretty telling dont ya think? Typical lib smoke and mirrors.
_________________ "If you like your current healthcare you can keep it, Period"!!
Barack Hussein Obama--- multiple times.
Wed Aug 13, 2008 11:19 am
Marko Rollo F L I N T O I D
quote:twotap schreef:
Lets see, title of thread "expose Obama" didnt see Mcains name mentioned. Guess their is no defending the chosen one without introducing his rival. Pretty telling dont ya think? Typical lib smoke and mirrors.
Dems are just taking a page out of the Rep play book. What's the #1 word on the McCain campaign blog? Take a guess,
then take a look.
Wed Aug 13, 2008 11:33 am
twotap F L I N T O I D
And now back to the subject at hand.
CAUTION
May be equal in length to some of PDs or Bankerts lengthy cut and pastes.
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_________________ "If you like your current healthcare you can keep it, Period"!!
Barack Hussein Obama--- multiple times.
Wed Aug 13, 2008 12:26 pm
Public D F L I N T O I D
I think that's a new Olympic record in the long distance cut and paste smear medley. USA!
Too bad the McCain file would crash the server. And I'm too young to compete.
_________________ "If you like your current healthcare you can keep it, Period"!!
Barack Hussein Obama--- multiple times.
Wed Aug 13, 2008 1:04 pm
Demeralda F L I N T O I D
I'd like to see him exposed, all right...
Gotta go wipe the drool off my keyboard
_________________ I'm no model lady. A model's just an imitation of the real thing. - Mae West
Wed Aug 13, 2008 2:45 pm
twotap F L I N T O I D
Can you imagine Baracko as prez, John the breck girl Edwards as vp and Georger Caloooney as the main adviser. Their would be more pecker tracks in the oval office since the days of John and Bobby sandwiching Marylin between em. At any rate here ya go Dem. all your little girl fantasies brouht to light
_________________ "If you like your current healthcare you can keep it, Period"!!
Barack Hussein Obama--- multiple times.
Wed Aug 13, 2008 3:01 pm
Demeralda F L I N T O I D
That's f'ing sweet, dude. How on earth did you know I'm a Star Wars geek?
Thanks for something for bath time
For my next request, can you do one where he's on the body of Mr. Darcy, please?
Oh yeah, and I'd also like one where he's Captain of the Enterprise.
Oh yeah, and also can you make him Aragorn from Lord of the Rings? TY!
_________________ I'm no model lady. A model's just an imitation of the real thing. - Mae West
Wed Aug 13, 2008 3:31 pm
Dave Starr F L I N T O I D
How about Jabba the Hut?
_________________ I used to care, but I take a pill for that now.
Pushing buttons sure can be fun.
When a lion wants to go somewhere, he doesn’t worry about how many hyenas are in the way.
Paddle faster, I hear banjos.
Wed Aug 13, 2008 5:00 pm
twotap F L I N T O I D
Steady now Demeralda its only an image ya know. Jeez girl I think you need to get out more.
I believe we could change this to wellhung guy in your case or perhaps just anyguy.
_________________ "If you like your current healthcare you can keep it, Period"!!
Barack Hussein Obama--- multiple times.
Wed Aug 13, 2008 5:53 pm
twotap F L I N T O I D
Ok enough wetting your pants over Baracko the chosen one on to the next bit of Obama trivia
The Obama File
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_________________ "If you like your current healthcare you can keep it, Period"!!
Barack Hussein Obama--- multiple times.
Wed Aug 13, 2008 6:04 pm
Mellow D F L I N T O I D
Wanna see Mc Cane get owned on Meet the Press??? I could watch this all day.
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