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I cant understand why Obama hasnt given this genius a high whitehouse position. Laughing


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Post Wed Apr 15, 2009 9:08 am 
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Post Wed Apr 15, 2009 5:38 pm 
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We could have done this to the former U.S. "ally" Osama bin Ladin.

Ron Paul's plan to fend off pirates

little-known congressional power could help the federal government keep the Somali pirates in check — and possibly do it for a discount price.

Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas) and a growing number of national security experts are calling on Congress to consider using letters of marque and reprisal, a power written into the Constitution that allows the United States to hire private citizens to keep international waters safe.

Used heavily during the Revolution and the War of 1812, letters of marque serve as official warrants from the government, allowing privateers to seize or destroy enemies, their loot and their vessels in exchange for bounty money.

The letters also require would-be thrill seekers to post a bond promising to abide by international rules of war.

In a YouTube video earlier this week, Paul suggested lawmakers consider issuing letters, which could relieve American naval ships from being the nation’s primary pirate responders — a free-market solution to make the high seas safer for cargo ships.

“I think if every potential pirate knew this would be the case, they would have second thoughts because they could probably be blown out of the water rather easily if those were the conditions,” Paul said.

Theoretically, hiring bounty hunters would also be a cheaper option.

National security experts estimate that this week’s ship captain rescue by Navy SEALs cost tens of millions, although a Navy spokesman says the military cannot confirm the exact cost of the mission.

Instead, privateers would be incentivized to patrol the ocean looking for key targets — and money would be paid only to the contractor who completed the job.

“If we have 100 American wanna-be Rambos patrolling the seas, it’s probably a good way of getting the job done,” said Competitive Enterprise Institute senior fellow and security expert Eli Lehrer. “Right now we have a Navy designed mostly to fight other navies. The weapons we have are all excellent, but they may not be the best ones to fight these kinds of pirates. The only cost under letters of marque would be some sort of bounty for the pirates.”

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Post Thu Apr 16, 2009 10:49 am 
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Blackwater Maritime Security.

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Post Thu Apr 16, 2009 9:39 pm 
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nahhh. the hell with blackwater........
how about......uhhhhhhh flint protection inc.!!! Cool Cool

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quote:
pan8 schreef:
Blackwater Maritime Security.

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Remember Pan they just changed their name to two letters, kind of reminds me what the singer Prince did with his name about a decade ago. Smile
Post Fri Apr 17, 2009 5:59 am 
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How about using the UN troops?? ya know with the empty guns, gay blue helmets with the dove emblazzoned on them, and orders to retreat if fired upon and not to engage . That should send fear up the spines of them swashbucklin pirates or have them laughing themselves silly.
Post Fri Apr 17, 2009 8:19 am 
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quote:
andi03 schreef:
quote:
pan8 schreef:
Blackwater Maritime Security.

Pan8


Remember Pan they just changed their name to two letters, kind of reminds me what the singer Prince did with his name about a decade ago. Smile


Yes, I am aware of this.

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Post Fri Apr 17, 2009 9:45 am 
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Apparently they are treated like a voluntary coast guard. This is even worse than the catch and release program we run in Flint for criminals.

Pirates let go

NAIROBI, Kenya – NATO warships and helicopters pursued Somali pirates for seven hours after they attacked a Norwegian tanker, NATO spokesmen said Sunday, and the high-speed chase only ended when warning shots were fired at the pirates' skiff.

Seven pirates attempted to attack the Norwegian-flagged MV Front Ardenne late Saturday but fled after crew took evasive maneuvers and alerted warships in the area, said Portuguese Lt. Cmdr. Alexandre Santos Fernandes, aboard a warship in the Gulf of Aden, and Cmdr. Chris Davies, of NATO's maritime headquarters in England.

"How the attack was thwarted is unclear, it appears to have been the actions of the tanker," Davies said. Fernandes said no shots were fired at the tanker.

Davies said the pirates sailed into the path of the Canadian warship Winnipeg, which was escorting a World Food Program delivery ship through the Gulf of Aden. The American ship USS Halyburton was also in the area and joined the chase.

"There was a lengthy pursuit, over seven hours," Davies said.

The pirates hurled weapons into the dark seas as the Canadian and U.S. warships closed in. The ships are part of NATO's anti-piracy mission.

"The skiff abandoned the scene and tried to escape to Somali territory," Fernandes said. "It was heading toward Bossaso we managed to track them ... warning shots have been made after several attempts to stop the vessel."

Both ships deployed helicopters, and naval officers hailed the pirates over loudspeakers and finally fired warning shots to stop them, Fernandes said, but not before the pirates had dumped most of their weapons overboard. NATO forces boarded the skiff, where they found a rocket-propelled grenade, and interrogated, disarmed and released the pirates.

The pirates cannot be prosecuted under Canadian law because they did not attack Canadian citizens or interests and the crime was not committed on Canadian territory.

"When a ship is part of NATO, the detention of person is a matter for the national authorities," Fernandes said. "It stops being a NATO issue and starts being a national issue."

The pirates' release underscores the difficulties navies have in fighting rampant piracy off the coast of lawless Somalia. Most of the time foreign navies simply disarm and release the pirates they catch due to legal complications and logistical difficulties in transporting pirates and witnesses to court.

Pirates have attacked more than 80 boats this year alone, four times the number assaulted in 2003, according to the Kuala Lumpur-based International Maritime Bureau. They now hold at least 18 ships — including a Belgian tanker seized Saturday with 10 crew aboard — and over 310 crew hostage, according to an Associated Press count.
Post Sun Apr 19, 2009 5:27 pm 
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perhaps every country sending ships through that area should make a statement that all pirates shall be killed on site. of course, a promise should be made to somalia that no illegal fishing trawlers or toxic waste will be tolerated in those waters either. Wink Wink sounds like a fair trade

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