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pan8
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Ok libs here you go and please give honest input. I suspect that in 2012 hillary will face off with obama, I feel she has higher ambitions than a mouth piece for a failed administration. That said, who do you libs support in 2012?
Be honest and let the board know why you prefer one over the other.
This is a serious question and please I did not mention Bush, he is not in this picture.
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Thu Jul 16, 2009 2:39 pm |
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Dan Moilanen
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quote:
pan8 schreef:
Ok libs here you go and please give honest input. I suspect that in 2012 hillary will face off with obama, I feel she has higher ambitions than a mouth piece for a failed administration. That said, who do you libs support in 2012?
Be honest and let the board know why you prefer one over the other.
This is a serious question and please I did not mention Bush, he is not in this picture.
Pan8
I love how you call it a failed administration yet there are another three years to go... it's amazing how much more you people complain within the first 7 months than the left did during the entire 8 years... |
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Thu Jul 16, 2009 4:43 pm |
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twotap
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complain within the first 7 months than the left did during the entire 8 years...
I think someone needs some memory pills. Their were folks threatening to "leave the country if Bush gets elected" or their parents would starve if Bush becomes prez. We have every right to complain about your POTUS and especially now with what he has been proposing lately. Taking 60% of someones earned wage to redistribute. He should be impeached. Dont like it tough S--T. |
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Barack Hussein Obama--- multiple times. |
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Thu Jul 16, 2009 6:40 pm |
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crunchybananas
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| It would be highly irregular for someone, especially within the same administration and political party, to challenge an incumbant president during an election cycle. |
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Thu Jul 16, 2009 6:42 pm |
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twotap
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| I guess you are not familiar with the Clintons. |
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"If you like your current healthcare you can keep it, Period"!!
Barack Hussein Obama--- multiple times. |
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Thu Jul 16, 2009 6:45 pm |
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definition= earned wage  |
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even a small act of goodness may be a tiny raft of salvation across the treacherous gulf of sin, but one who drinks the wine of selfishness, and dances on the little boat of meaness, sinks in the ocean of ignorance.
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Thu Jul 16, 2009 8:18 pm |
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twotap
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What some gets as compensation for a service they provide which is paid by a company and approved by stockholders and is no one elses business especially some money grubbing lib like our current POTUS and his Dem colleagues.
Now how about you give your defintion of "redistrbuting income". |
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"If you like your current healthcare you can keep it, Period"!!
Barack Hussein Obama--- multiple times. |
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Thu Jul 16, 2009 8:26 pm |
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Dan Moilanen
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quote:
twotap schreef:
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complain within the first 7 months than the left did during the entire 8 years...
I think someone needs some memory pills. Their were folks threatening to "leave the country if Bush gets elected" or their parents would starve if Bush becomes prez. We have every right to complain about your POTUS and especially now with what he has been proposing lately. Taking 60% of someones earned wage to redistribute. He should be impeached. Dont like it tough S--T.
Obama won 365 versus McCain's 173
Compare it to 2004:
Kerry 257 v. Bush 281
Obama had a pretty large mandate.
By the way, how much do you make? Because if it's under 50k, I'll find it humorous. |
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Thu Jul 16, 2009 9:15 pm |
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crunchybananas
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The electoral college is not how mandates are measured, the popular vote is.
President Obama captured 66,882,230 votes, or 53% of the popular vote, compared to John McCains 58,343,671 votes, or 46% of the popular vote.
In 2004, then President Bush recieved 62,040,606 votes, 51% of the vote, while John Kerry took 59,028,109 votes, or 48% of the popular vote.
President Obama has no more of a "mandate" then President Bush did after 2004. There really hasn't been a true mandate since Reagan nearly made a clean sweep in 1984. |
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Thu Jul 16, 2009 10:22 pm |
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well.....legal terms please (the only terms that count)
are we talking net income or not??  |
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even a small act of goodness may be a tiny raft of salvation across the treacherous gulf of sin, but one who drinks the wine of selfishness, and dances on the little boat of meaness, sinks in the ocean of ignorance.
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Fri Jul 17, 2009 1:51 am |
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Dan Moilanen
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quote:
crunchybananas schreef:
The electoral college is not how mandates are measured, the popular vote is.
President Obama captured 66,882,230 votes, or 53% of the popular vote, compared to John McCains 58,343,671 votes, or 46% of the popular vote.
In 2004, then President Bush recieved 62,040,606 votes, 51% of the vote, while John Kerry took 59,028,109 votes, or 48% of the popular vote.
President Obama has no more of a "mandate" then President Bush did after 2004. There really hasn't been a true mandate since Reagan nearly made a clean sweep in 1984.
http://www.jstor.org/pss/2150822
Read the whole piece, it's actually quite thought provoking... too bad without a JSTOR membership you can't read the whole article... might be able to find a synoposis online
Better yet read the "politics presidents make" by Steven Skowronek... interesting stuff regarding presidential regime theory.
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Fri Jul 17, 2009 3:08 am |
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twotap
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Hey dont forget Bush stole the elections.  Well according to the lib talking heads. |
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"If you like your current healthcare you can keep it, Period"!!
Barack Hussein Obama--- multiple times. |
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Fri Jul 17, 2009 7:20 am |
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never did answer the question.....as usual. deflection...  |
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even a small act of goodness may be a tiny raft of salvation across the treacherous gulf of sin, but one who drinks the wine of selfishness, and dances on the little boat of meaness, sinks in the ocean of ignorance.
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Fri Jul 17, 2009 8:34 pm |
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twotap
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| We are talking about someone elses income being made the business and property of those who did not earn it. Redistribute ya right. |
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"If you like your current healthcare you can keep it, Period"!!
Barack Hussein Obama--- multiple times. |
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Sat Jul 18, 2009 8:15 am |
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no. qualify your outlandish comments.
gross income? of a corporation or individual.
OR
net income? of a corporation or individual.
you are telling me
you
are upset because a person or corporation may
pay a few more percent tax if
they
net over a QUARTER MILLION DOLLARS? |
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even a small act of goodness may be a tiny raft of salvation across the treacherous gulf of sin, but one who drinks the wine of selfishness, and dances on the little boat of meaness, sinks in the ocean of ignorance.
P.Y. |
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Sat Jul 18, 2009 11:31 am |
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