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Steve Myers
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Mon Jun 15, 2009 11:43 am |
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back again
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wel now, i'll have to keep my eye on this!! as it pertains to flint! |
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Mon Jun 15, 2009 11:56 am |
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twotap
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Brainchild and Kildee two words that blend like water and oil. Round up all the sheep, move them. ( by force if necessary) into a controled area, disarm them, and supply them with all their daily needs from a government mandated list made up by Barcako and his cronies. The ultimate dream of all libs has now come true.
Remind you of anyone??
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Mon Jun 15, 2009 12:56 pm |
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Dave Starr
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Kim Jong Kildee.
Kildee - bulldoze everything.
Walling - Combine lots & build McMansions. |
_________________ I used to care, but I take a pill for that now.
Pushing buttons sure can be fun.
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Mon Jun 15, 2009 2:13 pm |
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Tegan
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Dave, both ideas suck.
This massive bulldozing plan makes my eyes bleed. Doesn't anyone remember "urban renewal?" Isn't this shockingly similar?
Surely there is a solution somewhere in the middle -- demolish the bad, keep the good; but that takes too much work, I guess.
By the way, show me ONE situation where massive demolition led to revitalization. |
_________________ "Preservationists are the only people in the world who are invariably confirmed in their wisdom after the fact." - John Kenneth Galbraith |
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Mon Jun 15, 2009 4:43 pm |
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twotap
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Before "urban renewal the country was blessed with LBJs "GREAT SOCIETY " Which was the beggining of the end for any sane ideas. |
_________________ "If you like your current healthcare you can keep it, Period"!!
Barack Hussein Obama--- multiple times. |
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Mon Jun 15, 2009 6:04 pm |
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Schreef
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Mon Jun 15, 2009 7:33 pm |
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Schreef
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to actually address your point,
Paris
is one example although their motivation was slightly different... they had an expanding middle class. |
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Mon Jun 15, 2009 8:09 pm |
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Dave Starr
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quote:
Tegan schreef:
By the way, show me ONE situation where massive demolition led to revitalization.
Hiroshima
Dresden
Berlin
Tokyo
(I know, not the kind of demolition you mean.)
BTW, the original "shrink the city" plan was to simply cut off city services and abandon those areas. Now, it seems to be move the people into houses owned by the land bank. |
_________________ I used to care, but I take a pill for that now.
Pushing buttons sure can be fun.
When a lion wants to go somewhere, he doesn’t worry about how many hyenas are in the way.
Paddle faster, I hear banjos. |
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Tue Jun 16, 2009 8:02 am |
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Tegan
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Schreef, the Paris demolition did lead to revitalization, ONLY because the biggest part of the plan was building new in place of the old (if I read the article correctly).
I suppose my point is that a vacant lot will not lead to revitalization faster than a (properly closed up) vacant building. |
_________________ "Preservationists are the only people in the world who are invariably confirmed in their wisdom after the fact." - John Kenneth Galbraith |
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Tue Jun 16, 2009 9:38 am |
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Schreef
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The revitalization succeeded because they appropriately assessed and addressed the needs of the city. The greening up would expedite the corraling. I don't think it has anything to do with attracting future business. "Decline is a fact of life in Flint. Resisting it is like resisting gravity." Forefathers would be proud, wouldn't they? |
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Tue Jun 16, 2009 9:12 pm |
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Dave Starr
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Not on our block. We're an island in a sea of blight. |
_________________ I used to care, but I take a pill for that now.
Pushing buttons sure can be fun.
When a lion wants to go somewhere, he doesn’t worry about how many hyenas are in the way.
Paddle faster, I hear banjos. |
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Wed Jun 17, 2009 7:29 am |
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